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  1. This looks great! I wish I had had something like this back in the day. Kana was a battle and I could find no smooth way to move from it to kanji afterwards. This seems to create a natural leveling up process. Thanks for all the work Adam!

  2. Between this, the JALUP B/I/A decks, and the Kanji assist, it seems like you have a more or less comprehensive way to learn Japanese to a great degree of competency here.

  3. This is really awesome. Now in one spot anyone learning Japanese has everything they need to level up from the absolute beginner to advanced. I’m going to get this to help my production and my girlfriend who’s struggling with the Kana in JALUP beginner. This stuff really deserves more exposure. I guess a lot of people are attracted to snake oil, rather than a systematic learning tool that actually works. Sick of websites making all these empty promises about fluency in some ridiculously short time frame getting all the attention. This site has grown so much, it’s gone from a detailed guide to an actual tool to learn. I’m really proud to be a part of this community, though it deserves to be much larger. I wish there were tools like this out there for all languages.

    Can’t wait for the future of JALUP! I know there’ll be even more great products out there for all to use :)
    Thanks again.

    • Thanks for the support as always James. It’s taken a long time for Jalup to gather the elements needed to help those trying to master Japanese. There’s a lot more coming up, and I’m hoping to have the site continually evolve into something better.

  4. Once I learned kana, even though I forgot them alot the more I read them and wrote them in sentences the more they stuck in my head. Now they are second nature :D But now I can’t look at romanji anymore and if a book has only romanji in it I won’t by it.

    Also there seems to be so much Japanese learning material for beginners but less for intermediate and advanced. There are tons of beginner audio courses for Japanese but not many intermediate or advanced

    • Luckily the only books you’ll ever run into with romaji will be beginner level textbooks.

      I think there is a lot less audio for intermediate and advanced levels because at that point, you’d rather listen to native media, not stale listening activities.

  5. When I first started studying Japanese I thought I didn’t need to learn the Kana. I guess I was focused more on speaking and listening. But it became very apparent that Kana (and Kanji) are essential for studying. It really isn’t that hard luckily, but man does Katakana slip from my mind if I’m not careful.

    • Even the people that just think they only want to be able to speak and listen should at least learn the kana. It’s such a small time investment for such massive returns.

    • Yes definitely. However it’ll depend a bit on how much writing you continue to do on to sentences in J-E and J-J. A tactic I used to use and many others did as well is to hand write out a sentence when you get it wrong in Anki. This can get tiring quickly, but doing it every once in a while is a nice refresher.

  6. This helped me conquer it fully, thanks! Just katakana I had trouble with, I guess anki will keep drilling it in my brain now. Nothing is more annoying than seeing katakana and having trouble reading it. And I tried other methods and they got boring fast — no anki no life. Feels good having captured them. I’ll look forward to branching the cards with just one unknown.

    Great tip, I’ll probably do that once a week.

  7. Hey Adam, Im just becoming interested in learning Japanese.. I’m on the step where I need to learn and memorize Hiragana and Katakana, is that something I need to do on my own before purchasing and using this? Or does the Kana Conqueror teach me Hiragana and Katakana?
    Currently, I don’t know the pronunciations or the symbols of either alphabet.

    • It teaches it to you. It’s great.
      Note that you will see the kana in the context of sentences and that the sentences include kanji. Don’t let that faze you. You can ignore the extra complexity and just read the kana.

  8. got it a few days ago and i really like the detail that went into the cards.
    the only problem i have is that i don’t know which kana i’m being asked to remember.
    not sure if that is because i am a total beginner or if i’m not seeing the pattern yet.

    • Regardless of what the card that you are reviewing had initially introduced, say お for example, your goal should be able to read/pronounce the entire card for a review. So in the initial お card sentence: おお!会(あ)おう! you would read the entire sentence (passing if able to recall all of the kana in the sentence). This will also be good reading practice for when you’re first starting off in retaining the other kana in the sentence, in this example being あ and う.

    • Just to add to the great answer Jacob gave you:

      You are being asked to remember all the kana. Each card builds one Kana at a time, but also acts as a review when it appears again on later cards. So to pass a card you should be able to read (remember) all the kana that appears on that card.

  9. I got this even after doing Jalup Beginner and theoretically knowing the kana because my katakana was weak.

    It has definitely helped.

    But I still see a huge gulf between hiragana and even kanji, and katakana. I think this is just because I am exposed to a far smaller volume of katakana in the sentence decks.

    Is this a common problem? Can anyone recommend a resource with tons of katakana? Is this something not to worry about as it will just improve over time?

    • I have the same problem with Katakana. I’ve been fighting with myself to just learn it, but right now it’s so easy to just skip over it lol. I think I’m just going to have to bite the bullet and learn it. I get enough exposure with Manga, but instead of skipping over it I should stop to look up the correct pronunciation. Honestly, I don’t think there is a short cut, we just gotta learn it like we did Hiragana. I’m gonna put it on my next month’s goals, never skip over Katakana again and start using Katakana flashcard apps on my phone. Btw, I’m like half way through Jalup intermediate lol.

    • I think it’s like this with everyone at least to some extent. As long as you don’t avoid it when you come across it, it really does just get better with time I think. It certainly did for me, though I’d say material is still easier to read in hiragana than in katakana.

      You won’t see a whole lot of katakana usage in the Jalup sentence decks in comparison to the other writing systems though, so you might want to consider reading more native sources like manga that have katakana in them. Even then though, the amount of katakana usage will still vary between series.

  10. I’m at a kanji-learning phase, but songs with subtitles have always been helpful for my reading.
    ひらがな: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrXHizFaol0
    カタカナ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzNWu89pn_I
    ドレミのうた (Do-Re-Mi song): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLAgyLrT9uU
    Popular kid songs: https://www.youtube.com/user/seesr2/videos
    Traditional kid songs: https://www.youtube.com/user/takanonfc/videos

    Not sure if you’re at this point, but when I was polishing my kana readings, drill games like these helped me a lot:
    http://www.csus.edu/indiv/s/sheaa/projects/genki/katakana-timer.html
    http://www.learn-hiragana-katakana.com/japanese-alphabet-typing-game-katakana/
    http://www.gyford.com/japanese/
    There’s even a cool retro-style one: http://www.valiantls.com/games-for-learning-japanese.html

    For word practice, you might also enjoy this multiple-choice quiz:
    http://iteslj.org/v/jre/katakana.html

    It’s okay to make mistakes, though! We’re all works in progress. For example, just the other day, I randomly forget how to handwrite the カタカナ character ヌ (nu), even though I can read it perfectly fine. I felt embarrassed at the time (I could only think ぬぬぬ from ひらがな), but hey, now it has my attention, and I will remember better the next time! ^w^

    Also, hands-down the best tip for telling apart the katakana シ(shi) and ツ(tsu):
    You write し(shi) by going downward and curving right, same with シ(shi)
    You write つ(tsu) by going across and curving downward, same with ツ(tsu)

    ン(n) is like the Nike logo swoosh, which swooshes from the left. [and the little part on top is more horizontal, like your (Nike) shoe/foot is flat on the ground]

    ソ(so) is like sew(SO)ing with your right hand… you swoop from the right (b/c you’d break your wrist trying to do it any other way…just thinking about it, ow!). [and the little part on top is more vertical, like a sewing thimble on your thumb saying thumbs up for doing a good job studying katakana!]

    Lastly, ノ(no) is like the slash through a no-smoking sign. NO! ノ![Or if history/politics lights up your brain, it could be a sash someone is wearing at a protest while shouting NO! ノ to something awful — like what some suffragettes wore while fighting voting inequalities. :P]

  11. メキシコ人(じん)の友達(ともだち)がたくさんいる。

    This card. The one for メ. The reading is too fast. It sounds like, to me, at the さんいる part she is only saying さいる. Maybe it’s my untrained ear. I was expecting SANIRU. Is the ん really so soft? If so, why?

    Can someone else give a listen?

    • You might be having this problem because the ん sound in たくさん is nasal. I read the sentence out loud a few times, and the ん in たくさん is not the same n sound as the の in メキシコ人の友達. If you’re listening for the same n sound as the の, it’s not there, so you won’t hear it.

      I also tried having my sister, who does not speak Japanese, listen for the ん in that part of the sentence (as I read it out loud), but she could barely hear it the first time she heard it and could not hear it the second time. Probably the best solution is to get used to hearing the nasal n sound through immersion so that it’s easier to pick up in the future.

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