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Why is Kanji Kingdom in a Different Order from Jalup Beginner? — 3 Comments

  1. As someone who learned Kanji using the RTK method (Using Kanji Koohi website) before ever even hearing of Jalup, I am curious how you guys feel Kanji Kingdom compares to RTK. I mainly ask because I have a friend who is also starting to learn japanese and is about to enter the ‘kanji’ phase.

    The thing that I loved about RTK that just seems to be missing in Kanji Kingdom is mnemonics. I realize they aren’t for everyone though.

    Could anyone give me better insight on Kanji Kingdom vs RTK, especially as it relates to mnemonics?

    • Just to make things trickier, there is another good 3rd option.

      1. Do Lazy Kanji (AJATT style)
      2. Learn a bunch of Japanese, maybe 2 years worth
      3. Do RTK, however this time using the Japanese you know, use Japanese on the front to trigger the Kanji your trying to recall

  2. I think learning the kanji by stroke order is very logical, but it is not necessarily the best order to learn the kanji. Out of the first ten kanji, there is one, 乙, that is not really going to be encountered early on in your studies of actual sentences. I have been thinking about a way to order the kanji in a much more natural pathway, by going after the pictographs and ideographs that constitute the main radicals, and then it becomes easier to go into the phono-semantic compounds which comprise most kanji. Basically, the first 200-300 kanji would just set you up for everything else, which could be in the order that you encounter them. In that way, maybe learning 乙 would be best done immediately before you see it in a compound kanji, like 乾 (which you would learn in conjunction with the word 乾杯). I don’t know if I will ever have the time to make such a deck, since I have already gone through the entire Joyo Kanji.

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